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Pour les francophones, voici la traduction de l’interview de Marni.

Here is an interview with Marni from WingGirlMethod.com we made this week. The recording has been transcribed below. Have fun !

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Interview with Marni from WingGirlMethod.com

Hello guys ! Today we have the pleasure to welcome Marni from WingGirlMethod.com ! Marni is a woman coaching men who need seduction advice. She brings them a female perspective on questions there are asking themselves. She started to give advice to her male friends first. But then, in 2003, she offered a service called the Wing Girl Outing. You would go out surrounded by two girls who would introduce you to other women in the venue.  So Marni … Hello !

Hi ! Thanks for having me.

Well, you’re welcome. What would you like to add to better present yourself ?

I think you actually did very well with that. Basically, I offer men a female perspective and not the usual female perspective because I actually know what I’m talking about. A lot of women don’t know what attracts them, what turns them on, what they actually respond to for men. So I am like every other woman but I actually understand and have the ability to articulate attraction. And I can also teach men on how to create attraction and make more attractive versions of themselves.

Ok. Regarding attraction, is that something you learnt for yourself or something you just feel ?

It’s absolutly both. So, it’s something that I feel obviously. I can feel when I’m attracted. But over time I’ve learned and I’ve researched what it is that causes attraction inside of me. And what I respond to. What I don’t respond to. What most women are attracted to. What most women are not attracted to. So again, it’s natural and it’s what I felt within myself but then over the years it’s what I’ve researched from talking to other women, other specialists, other experts, reading books and mainly … Just mainly from observing and asking questions to other people to digg deeper and find out more informations.

Ok. So … what are you teaching to men ? Because in the seduction community, it’s often stuff like NLP or routines. Is you stuff inspired from all this or is it completely different ?

It is completely different because I’m really teaching people to be the best version of themselves. And to allow themselves to set their own boundaries, to believe that they have self-worth and be the most authentic version of themselves. Because ultimately, that is what people are attracted to, and attracted to consistently. But NLP and other matters like that other do work because they provide people with information that calm them down. But in the long term, it doesn’t really work. So I can teach a man a routine and it can work very effectively for an evening. But if he doesn’t have the goods to backup that routine long term, the routine is gonna be nothing for him. Because he’s not going to be able to be in a relationship, to keep a woman for a long time and attract women on a consistent basis. So, the main thing about mine is that I actually tell men how it feels when they’ve hit an attractive point for themselves.

Ok. So you mean, to make men reach the best of themselves, they need to know what they are looking for ? Is that right ?

The men need to know what there are looking for ? Or they need to know what women are looking for ?

About themselves.

Yeah ! They need to know what there are looking for. They need to be open minded. They need to understand women and how they work. And they need to be prepared. So that’s also what I provide to men. It’s kind of like answering the questions « Why do women give out their phone number and do not answer the phone ? ». « Why do women flirt with you but then do not go home with you and sleep with you ? ». Women are very different from men and they do actions for a lot of different reasons than men do. So it’s breaking that barrier teaching men about the things that women do which makes them stronger, which which makes them more confident. Because the more that you understand what it is that you’re trying to do, the more comfortable and confident you become.

Ok. And so … do you mean that girls on their side are more mature in a certain way because they know what they want and men don’t ? Or is it also true for girls ?

It’s also true for girls. Girls are attracted to an authentic man. And men are attracted to authentic women. Those are attractive qualities in members of the opposite sex. Women have baggage, men have baggage. Women have fears, men have fears. The thing is that when you are in a position where you don’t understand something, you think that you’re alone and you’re the only person. So for like a lot of guys who have approach anxiety, their fear is that everybody is better than them, everybody knows how to talk to women except for them when that’s not really true at all. [...] Women have the exact same fears. But when you have that fear again it feels like nobody else does.

Yeah, and that’s something I’ve read lots of time with my readers because they think they should know all the answers before taking action. This is really hard for them to just take on little action if they don’t know the whole process. [...] For instance, if they are targeting sex, if they don’t know how to go to the sex thing, they don’t want to start.

Exactly, they already want to jump to the next stage instead of working towards it. So I always so « You know … if you had a brain surgeon that follow up that exact same set of rules, would that be good ? » Do you know what I mean ? Like, you don’t want to go to a brain surgeon who just skipped all the introductory stuff and basic stuff. You want a brain surgeon who … is very smart, who knows what he is talking about and he has worked his way up to the position that he is in now ! So that he can understand everything and know everything that is going on. And that’s kind of what you’re doing know ! With women, you’re learning a new skill, you’re learning how to attract women. If you don’t already know how to do it, you’re learning a new skill. So it is baby steps, there is not a magic pill. And it really is building up over time, taking chances, taking risks, having experiences, trying different things and see if they work for you !

Do you think men need to make lots of approaches to gain confidence ? Because there is a regular advice that is « make lots of approaches and be shotdown to be finally confident in the presence of women ». Do you agree with that ?

Yeah ! Definitely. In the very beginning, if you have approach anxiety, you should be approaching everybody and testing it out. And teaching yourself how easy it is. And then once you get that done, you’re comfortable approaching people, then become more targeted. There is a lot of guys out there who are « Ok,I did 50 approaches today » and then they get upset when they have 48 rejections. But they only liked 2 of the girls they approached. So there is approaching these other people to approach them for practice which is just fine. But there are getting upset when the women that they don’t even want don’t want them back. And forget about the fact they didn’t want them ! So, it doesn’t really work to their benefit.

Maybe they just want to enjoy but not learn whereas maybe sometimes they need to learn a little bit to enjoy later.

Exactly

Ok, and we were talking about seduction but do you give also advice about relationship with the winggirlmethod.

Yes !

Ok. Because it’s a very specific subject and sometimes, coaches are just doing approaches and not relationships and it’s kind of disconnected.

Yeah definitely. The thing is that, when I started teaching about approaching and attraction, that was the stage that I was going through and now I’m in a relationship so I’m experiencing it and learning it at the same time. So, yes, I definitely give advice on actual relationships as well.

Ok. By the way, in the seduction community, we are used to seperate day game from night game. Do you see as a women any difference between day and night ?

Yeah definitely. I would say at night, these people are acting social, there are more open. People are looking to engage other people. But at the same time they do have hurdles up.  They do make it challenging for people to approach them. During the day is also wonderful. I really think that everything is an opportunity. It’s kind of meeting people and going out and doing whatever you like sort of works. The only difference between day and night game … I believe, if you’re trying to figure out a different mindset, it’s that you know one is done during the day when it’s light out and one it’s done during the night when it’s dark. You have to have the same open mindset whether you’re approaching in the day and or you’re approaching in the night.

Ok, so I suppose, when you’re helping men, you are as well doing during the day and during the night.

Yes. Definitely.

Ok. And, I think, you’re not alone in the WingGirlMethod. Can you talk about … How does it work ? Because, I think you are some girls located around the globe. Can you talk about it ?

Yeah there are. There are international. There is about 50 women who blog for me and I have other women that I pull from when I need them over going to an outing. So I have about 6 women that come with me on outings with men. And then again, I have 50 women who contribute with their opinions. And then tons of other women that I interview when I asked questions and I did research with just to find out more information on « What women want ? », « How women feel ? » and how to give more information to men.

And basically, when there are coming to you, it’s just for approaching ? Or you’ve got a wide range of questions ?

A wide range of questions. I get every question from men. « Why don’t women answer the phone when they give out they phone number ? » I get questions from men who are in relationships. I get questions from men about approaching and approach anxiety. So it is all over the map.

Ok. And do you have a popular product right now you’re selling ?

Yes ! Well, if you go to our website, it’s actually on the products page : How To Get Women. It gives you our three products. The number one selling product that we have is « How to become the man women want ». Which is really just getting over thoses first humps. Becoming a more confident person and it teaches you how step by step « How to become the man women want ». And the other program that I really like is a new one that we just pulled out called « First steps to attracting women ». And, it’s really just that. It tells you the first steps. It’s my interviews with other experts and other specialists. Interviews with other women. And just giving you like a broad range of information from women from other experts who are men, other experts who are women and from myself.

Great ! And by the way, do you have them translated in other languages ? Other than english ? Because as you said, you’re all around the globe.

Yeah ! I actually don’t. I don’t but that’s something we can definitely look into and try to do.

Ok, that’s great. Maybe I’m wrong on this one but I’d like to speak about something I noticed recently. The more I listen to women speaking and the more I’m convinced that women like to focus on one subject and treat every details of it. Whereas men, we tend to do the opposite, we jump from very quickly from one subject to another. And sometimes, I find it very boring to listen to girls because there are too many details I just don’t want to follow and I come back to my own thoughts. Is that a pattern you noticed between men and women interactions or is it just something I made up ?

I don’t know if you made it up but I actually find it to be quite the opposite. Women are multi focussed, they have several topics thay can talk about. And men are single focussed, so they usually do talk about in topic but in great depth and beat it to death. But women jump all over the place, so I actually find that the exact opposite.
So it’s intersting you say that.

Yeah … I don’t know maybe it’s …

Maybe it’s a french thing !

Maybe … We’ll need to digg on this one !

Yeah, definitely. Well we can raise ourselves a little bit further.

Ok. Sounds great. I listened to your interview with David Shade a little bit sooner. And you said that girls reacted positively to specific traits. Can you name them ?

Yes, a man who is selfassured, calm, cool, collected and comfortable. It’s what they want and what they respond to.
It’s fantastic energy, it’s exactly what women are looking for. They basically want what they deem as positive. And everybody deems those caracteristics as being positive.

Ok so you are 100% affirmative that you need all those caracteristics ?

It really just boil down to be an authentic man. Being an authentic person.

I had one of my reader who would e-mail me saying that he was not the kind of man who wanted to be a leader. So he asked me what could he do without this specific caracteristic ?

If you’re not a leader, how do you become a leader. Again, it’s basically baby steps. It’s deciding what you want and taking the necessary steps to get it without being a jerk. It’s not dropping you boundaries, it’s letting people know that you have boundaries and you are willing to compromise and to discuss other options. People who are insecure have their boundaries and don’t let anybody negotiate with them. Those are insecure people stuborn agressive. But people who have boundaries and there are opened to discussions, to hear another side, that’s a person who can be a leader and that can make a valid decision after they have that information. A person who is a leader is very comfortable in his own skin and doesn’t become a wimp when a woman he just meets is [...] at him.

Fine, I think that will answer his question.

Perfect.

Would you like to add something before we end this interview ? Because I know we don’t have a lot of time ahead.

No, the only thing I would like to add is that we have a new program that is actually out called « Get the Girl ». And it’s the insiders program for men who win. It’s basically a membership package where you get to interact on a daily basis with myself or my other wing girls and ask a female perspective from a female 24 hours a day. And you get an honest bland female perspective back. So, it’s the only service where you get to interact with females and they tell you what to do, what women want and provide female advice. And there is also tons of other bonuses included. But that’s the main program so if your users want to come sign up for our free newsletters, they can find out more information about that service !

Ok great ! By the way, I just forgot, a last question. In the seduction community, I don’t see lots of people talking about sex. But not in the usual way, just men and woman. But I mean in the medical way. Because you know there are lots of diseases and things like that out there. I’d like your point about this. Do you also teach them what they need to know ?

No, I don’t teach [...] about diseases. I’m not a sex specialist. I give my advice and opinions on sex. But I think that everybody should always be safe and carefull. Obviously, there is a lots of things out there that you don’t want to pass on to be bulk or to get from other people. So be very carefull, make wise decisions. Be smart and do what it is that you want to do but respect other people’s decisions as well. I agree with you, I think it’s very important as well. I say it should be something that’s more talked about. So I appreciate that question !

Great, well, thank you Marni for this interview !

Thank you.

And I hope to talk to you soon !

Yeah definitelly, thank you !